Music can play an important part in love and relationships, and one basically affects the other. Having spent many years behind the scenes as an agent and manager representing some fabulous artists, Tara Joseph now finds herself hosting a podcast called For Love And Music. In this intro episode, Tara talks about how she got into the music industry and explains why she named her podcast as such. She also shares the two reasons she moved to Los Angeles and the opportunities she has had since then. Join Tara on today’s show to learn more about what’s coming on her podcast.
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For Love And Music: Intro Episode
I have spent many years behind the scenes as an agent and manager representing some fabulous artists. Now, I find myself hosting a podcast, which is a totally different experience, incredibly exciting and pretty nerve-racking. Do bear with me and I hope that you enjoy the majority of what I have to say. Why is the podcast called For Love and Music? It’s a very simple answer. I live in Los Angeles. The two reasons I moved to Los Angeles is one for love. I met my beautiful wife, Alyssa, and I had to emigrate to be here with her. Two is for music because I am in the music industry. I felt like the epicenter of the music industry. The epicenter of the entertainment industry was here in LA. It felt like everything was moving much faster. There was more opportunity.
I do feel that the opportunities I’ve had here have been ten-fold in comparison to perhaps the opportunities I would have had back home in London. I love London. I love the UK speaking from personal experience. What are you going to expect For Love and Music? I don’t, by any manner of speaking, call myself a music expert and aficionado. I call myself someone who loves music and loves working with interesting people, who loves exciting and creative experiences. I’m going to be interviewing some fabulous people over the next episodes who are probably much more well-versed in the music industry than me. All I can say is that I can offer up my own words of wisdom and hope that somewhere some may resonate with some of you.
Getting Into The Music Industry
How did I get into the music industry? It was never my intention to be in the music industry. For a lot of people, that’s all they ever dream of doing. I came at this from the left of the field. I was a film and TV agent at William Morris in London. This is before it became WME. I’m talking many years ago, back in the late ’90s. I was the young agent at the time who was representing some cool young actors, but also some crossover artists. When I say crossover, I mean artists who came from other fields but wanted to act. Whether they were TV hosts, stroke presenters or they could have been musicians. They could have been anything but their core business was not acting. During this experience and this period of representation, I happen to manage two amazing women called Nicole and Natalie Appleton, who I have to say I owe a lot to.
I’ve never had the opportunity to say a thank you because quite frankly, without Nic and Nat, I would never have gotten into the music industry. I was very much devoted to acting. When I met them, they were looking for a change of management. After I’d known them for some time, they asked if I’d managed them because they believed that I would fight for them and that they could trust me. I had a bit of come to Jesus moment, so to speak, where I was like, “This could be an amazing experience.” It absolutely was. My journey began and I was thrown into the deep end. I didn’t know anything about it, but sometimes in these situations, ignorance is bliss and it worked in my favor. I have to say the manager that I am now many years later is very different to the manager I was then, but you live and learn and I did my best.Music plays an important part in love and relationships. There's a great synergy between both. Click To Tweet
As I said, that was my first foray into the music industry. During that period of time of what was some amazing artists, another big thank you that I want to give is to the fabulous multi-talented, Katherine Jenkins. She gave me a big opportunity and who I had the pleasure and honor of working with. I was managing for eight amazing years traveling around the world. I experienced things that I’m honored to have because a lot of people never would. Over the past years, I’ve built a very close relationship with Universal, particularly on the classical side. I love working with Decca. I’m working on some very exciting projects right now, one in particular with Decca, which you will all learn about soon.
An Experience Through Music
I’m going to keep that hush-hush for now. This show is going to be an experience through music. Let’s not forget that it’s called For Love and Music. Therefore, it’s not going to be about music, but I want to find out how love has perhaps played a role in some of my guests’ lives, either in conjunction with the careers in the music industry or maybe has influenced their careers in the music industry by some manner of speaking. I want to see what I can find out. Also, I’m excited to have a very special guest on my show soon who is more versed in the ways of love and relationships.
It’s important to see from that angle how music can play an important part in love and relationships and how one affects the other. There’s a great synergy between both. My stepmother, Norma, passed away who was a huge influence in my life. The reason I want to have an, “I love you, Norm” moment is because she played a huge part in my childhood in introducing me to some of the most classic musicals of all time. Without her, I may not have ever discovered these musicals in my life. I remember going down to stay with her and my father, they lived in West Sussex. We would sometimes when it was cold, sit around the fire, either watching movies or listening to soundtracks of some of the best musicals ever.
One of my all-time favorites and one of the definite favorites that Norma introduced me to is Auntie Mame. Lucille Ball and Robert Preston singing some of those fabulous songs. It’s such an art musical. She’s such a vivacious, gregarious, eccentric and exuberant personality as our Auntie Mame. I wanted her to be my aunt. Victor Victoria, we could all sit here talking about the fabulous Julie Andrews and how she has shaped so many of our lives with the Sound of Music or Mary Poppins. Sticking on Victor Victoria right now and the jazziness of Jazz Holt. It’s again one of my all-time top ten. While we’re talking about Julie Andrews, how can you not mention the Sound of Music when you talk about Julie Andrews?
The Musical Theater
I have to tell everyone one little bit of both sensical information, but as a Jewish girl growing up in London, I was casted when I was eight years old as Rolf the Nazi. I was probably the first-ever Jewish Nazi in the Sound of Music. I relish the role. Hopefully, I did a good job. I remember singing Sixteen Going on Seventeen with my whole heart. Singing that song was a load of fun. Sweet Charity, Shirley MacLaine, Hey, Big Spender, don’t you want to be in that scene? I want to be in that scene with Shirley MacLaine, one of my old-time favorite actresses and she’s still amazing to this day.
I have to mention, The Way We Were, was introduced to me by the fabulous Norma. Barbra Streisand singing in that film to Robert Redford, that unbelievable romance and love between them. I’ve heard that it wasn’t so hot behind the scenes, but we’ll forget about that. Every time I see that, I need a box of tissues. I probably have seen it fifteen times and every time I see it, I love it more and more. I’m sure hundreds of millions of you out there are huge Barbara Streisand fans. I’m one of them. You’ve got to look back at her films when she was younger, like Funny Girl, how comic timing and everything. Because of Norma, I learned about a whole load of those musicals and we’ll never forget them. Thank you, Norm, for such great moments within my childhood, introducing me to musical theater.
Being A Music Manager
We might have a whole other episode on management. What is management? Why do people want to manage other people? Being a music manager, probably any manager, it’s not a job. It’s more of a vocation because it takes every ounce of who you are to do a good job. You’re not just available 9 to 5. You’re available 24/7. You very much take the good with the bad. Oftentimes, there’s a lot of bad. There are a lot of times where when you’re living based on someone else’s income and take a commission of someone else’s income, there’s not that much commission coming in and it can be difficult. There are times when it’s the opposite. You’re riding a wave and everything is fabulous.
You take the good with the good and the bad with the bad. It becomes addictive. I feel that when you are a manager, you feel like, “What else could you possibly do?” My mother has sometimes said to me, “Why don’t you do something else? Why are you doing this job that is unpredictable?” I’m like, “I love it. I love the people that I work with. I’m lucky that I’ve had the opportunity to work with the majority of the artists that I’ve worked with and what else am I going to do? This is what I know.”Love is a huge part of what music is. Click To Tweet
She’ll go, “All right then, but you’re heading for 50. What are you going to do? You either embrace how old you are or you’re dead. You might as well embrace it.” I’m like, “What can I say?” You either got it or you haven’t got it. Management is something that is in your blood if you’re going to do it. You can have experiences when you’re managing people that perhaps you can never have in any other career. You are all dictated to some of the time by the move that your artists might be in on any particular day. We’re all human and we all feel different things and sometimes I’m in a good mood, sometimes they’re in a good mood or I’m not. It is what it is.
As I’ve said, probably fifteen times I couldn’t or wouldn’t do anything else. Saying that though, in the past couple of years, alongside the management that I’m doing that I always will do, I’ve also been fortunate enough to set up a TV production company with my Lala Landed podcast series partner, the fabulous and super talented, Dani Behr and our company, DANTAR. It’s is flying along. It’s not a quick process, but we’re all getting there. We are working with some fantastic production partners. Going back to management, I am very lucky to have been in this business. I am fortunate enough to have represented some exciting people. I’ve mentioned three of them, but there are others.
Every time you manage a new artist, you learn something new. I have to say that I’m learning most minutes of every day. I have been invited on numerous occasions to speak on the music panel at UCLA by the fabulous attorney and close friend of mine, Don Franz. When I’m on that panel sitting alongside my co-panelists, I’m often like, “What am I doing here?” I get terribly nervous. For some reason, I’m always at the end of the panel. When everyone else has given their answer, it’s always down to me and I’m like, “What am I going to say?”
My father once said to me, who used to do a lot of lecturing on photography, “When you hear your own voice, that’s when you’ll start to feel better.” It’s true. I start talking to the students, and all of a sudden, I can’t stop. Why do you go into management? It’s something in you that you have to. That sounds a bit stupid, but you have to. It’s a service industry and your artists become your babies. You nurture them. You want success for them. Sometimes you want success for your artists more than your artists want success for themselves. That can be very upsetting. Sometimes you can be in a situation where you’re more passionate about the artist’s career than they are.
I have been in that situation before. I’ve had to end relationships because unless your artist is as passionate as you, it’s not going to work. Someone also said to me once that when I was an agent representing actors, you’re not a real agent until your first client fires you. A few firings later, I am now an official agent or straight official manager. You don’t go through this business in the profession I’m in without being fired on the odd occasion. The majority of the time, in fact, in my entirety, it hasn’t happened very many times but it’s happened. Every time it does happen, you feel sometimes more than others gutted because you give your all to these people and sometimes they leave. They think they’re going to go and do so much better off somewhere else and they don’t.
I have a very good friend who represents actors. This particular person has lost a few artists, a few actors. These actors are never been heard of again. If they’ve stuck with this person, they have had gone so much further than they ever got. You feel at that point like it’s a thankless job. You look at all of the negative sides of it. You look at all the time invested and you’re like, “I literally worked.” For the past three summer holidays, I was on call 24/7. I didn’t have a holiday. It costs me a lot of money. Here I am a few years later, now they fired me. You feel gutted. Where one door closes, another opens. When one opportunity ends, another one comes.
I have to say that over the past couple of years, I have so many new and exciting experiences come my way. I don’t know quite how it all happened. I love the UK and I love London. I love my dear best friends who live there and all my work colleagues there. For me, the things that have happened to me over the past couple of years, I don’t know if those opportunities would have happened in the UK. When I first came to LA, people would say to me, “Tara, you seem to fit in here. The energy of LA seems to suit you,” and it did. When I met Alyssa and fell madly in love, it wasn’t a difficult decision to make. I feel a lot freer here. I don’t know why. I love the outdoor life. I love my life here with my three furry babies and Alyssa living in Sherman Oaks. Love is an important part of this show.
Love And Music
What is a song that you remember that means something very romantic, sexy or means something to you? A song that means a lot to me is the Sea by Morcheeba, which I had my first kiss too that meant anything. I will always remember that song with deep affection. I feel quite emotional when I listened to it. Going back further in time, how about Johnny Digweed? Johnny Digweed is not about love. Johnny Digweed is about me having some fun with one of my best friends, Sasha, between her and me in London in the early ’90s. There are songs that mean a lot to people. There are songs that people want to be played at their weddings. There are all songs that people want to be played at their funerals. Perhaps that’s a more important song, how you want to be remembered.
Love is a huge part of what music is. How many songs are there that talk about love? Most songs talk about sex, but how many talks about love? There are loads of songs. How many playlists are there that focus on love? There are thousands. Therefore, I feel that calling my podcast for Love and Music makes sense. Now, I am going to be speaking to some fabulous people. I have some people coming on the show that I want to thank. I’ve already thanked a few people, but I want to thank other people who I’m going to interview who again have done things for me throughout my career and throughout my life. They have led me to be the person I am and to the place where I now am.
Without their help and support, I probably would be doing things in a different way. I might not be living here. Who knows? I’m excited about that. I’m incredibly excited about Lala Landed, which I’m co-hosting with Dani, which is going to be talking about all things LA, all things DANTAR productions, us two Brit girls in LA, how we originally met all those many moons ago. I want to say thank you for giving me this opportunity. I hope that some of what I’ve said has been of interest to you. I hope that I continue to improve over the weeks. I hope that I can bring some pleasure to those of you who choose to tune in. As I said, I’m not going to be sitting here trying to be something that I’m not. I want to be me. I want to have some fun and bring some entertainments to all of your days. On that note, signing out For Love and Music. You’ll be hearing from me again very soon. Big kiss.